I have a designer se le that was purchased a year ago, I love her. She was a trade up from an inherited lily 545, which I also loved (just wanted the emb capabilities) and a few months ago a 936 replaced my bl serger. I have been eying vintage hv on CL and Ebay for a while now too, so as soon as the right one comes along at the right time I'll round out my vintage collection a bit, heh heh.