These shorts are my second attempt ever at an Otto pattern. (And first attempt at decorative topstitching with a twin needle. Still need to work a bit on turning corners.) I cut a 104 without the seam allowance. I also cut the length between the 2 on the pattern. I also didn't do the waistband as directed. I think I used a bit wider elastic and without the seam allowance on the waistband piece, I couldn't get it to work. DS seems to like them. He has worn them 2 days in a row!!